Friday, February 02, 2007
School Board To Make Final Vote on Feb. 22 for 2007-08 Boundary Adjustments
The Fairfax County School Board will finally vote on Feb. 22 to approve adjustments to school attendance areas for South County Secondary School (SCSS) and Hayfield Secondary School (HSS) for the 2007-08 school year. Recommendations under consideration by the Board can be found in PDF format here. If you want to voice your opinion to the school board, NOW is the time to do it. You may find various methods to reach the board here. The comment thread on this post is the ONLY ONE that will remain open on this blog leading up to the school board's decision.
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all my good comments are gone. Well just as well lets start fresh. That old board was slow anyway. Looking at the PDF of the recommendation just makes me po. Look at LBSS, nothing. In five years they will be at 81 percent and Hayfield at 92 percent. Why the heck has this happened. I tell you what if this recommendation goes through to phase 2 they better not try to bring Hayfield into another boundary study. Look at the Demographics as well.
4:02, not trying to stifle your previous input/comments -- but that post with 2,700+ comments just took WAY too long to load. Please feel free to copy your pertinent input/comments from that old comment thread to this new one....
No worries, VSOM, Your right it took to long to load, this is much better.
Convert the Laurel Hill Elementary School into a South County Middle School. The Laurel Hill Elementary is still in a pre-development phase. Stop development and design the school to be a Middle School for grades 6 to 8. This will alleviate overcrowding at the SCSS and at the South County Elementary Schools. This is the solution for South County.
No way!
Absolutely not should LHES be put on the back burner! Interesting now that Bradsher's kids are out of Silverbrook, she doesn't care what happens to the younger kids in her neighborhood.
I would rather have Option 2B or even Option 1 than this selfish idea that doesn't benefit younger families.
715,
Why would you say that? The Silver Brook parents do not want to convert LHES to a middle school. That is ia terrible idea.
Option #1 is not a bad choice and Lorton supports it. However, every other option on the table will send all Lorton Area children to Hayfield. Some of these Lorton Children live 1.2 miles from SCSS. There is a community called Lorton Valley, that is 1.2 miles from SCSS, but all of the kids may get be sent to 7 miles to Hayfield.
The SB must keep the schools racially and socioeconomically balanced. Only Option 1 does that.
option one destroys Hayfield. You would have a middle school equal in size to the High school and the High school side would remain too small because those kids would come and leave before high school. I can't believe anyone would want that for their middle school age kids.
7:15 You really have it out for that person don't you. Every problem you want to blame on her. She didn't create this, your apathy did.
How bout we do a draft with a lottery like in the Vietnam era. Your number is tied to your kids birthday.
Building a South County Middle School is the only way to 1) Solve the SCSS overcrowding problem 2) avoid hurting Lake Braddock or Hayfield 3) Avoid busing Lorton children, who are 1.2 miles away, 7.5 miles to Hayfield. We need to convert LH Elementary into a middle school and keep all of our SC kids in South County.
All South County communities have to look at what is best for all of South County, as a whole. Please note that if Laurel Hill gets the elementary school, ALL Lorton area children will be bused out of South County for grades 7 to 12 (7.5 miles away & right into the BRAC traffic). This is not fair to the Lorton children who are only 1.2 miles from SCSS and could walk to school. I apologize if I offend anyone, but I'm trying to push for what's best for everyone.
Lorton News Article: Left out of the boundary
http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?article=76615&paper=80&cat=104
7:58 No you are pushing for what is best for you. No one is denying LV should be going to SC. They are very close and this issue needs to be reexamined. However, negating the ES for a MS that is far too big is the wrong step to take. Let's remember the county is in charge of allocating schools and building them. Last I looked the SC area was part of this county. It is time the county respond to the needs here and build the MS as orginally planned based upon need. No community should give up their ES. This ES is needed, Silverbrook is over 1250 students, close to 400 over capacity.
Option #1 should be dead now. It was frought with so many problems and I am surprised anyone still brings it up. It is the option that creates more problems and more overcrowding than doing nothing at all. If you have asked the board to consider it you should send them another and apoligize.
Is Halley overcrowded?
no
Lorton Station is OC, Gunston may need adjustment and NF with LHES.
If Laurel Hill Elementary School were converted to a middle school for grades 6 to 8, wouldn't that alleviate some of the overcrowding at all of the South County Elementary Schools? All 6th graders would attend the new middle school.
What does South County need more 1) A new elementary school in Laurel Hill? OR 2) A new middle school?
If South County desperately needs the LHES, then build it. However, it sounds like a middle school is what South County is begging for.
Of course South County is begging for a middle school. The point is, they don't need one while there is pleaty of space at nearby schools. However, the SB need to be considerate of Hayfield and Lake Braddock and balance diversity and numbers. South County should be grateful to the Hayfield parents for trying to be so helpful in solving their problems.
Actually, Hayfield should be grateful that SCSS took so many of their students. From what I hear from HF parents, it's a ghost town at HF now.
Diversity is a big word.
Diviersity is not the issue. It is through out the county. Your concern is socio-economics, which is something not so easy to balance and can cause difficult issues. You want such balance however there is no balance at Robinson, LBSS, Langley, Woodson, Westfield, Chantilly etc. There has been no real effort for a balance of all socio-economic stratas in all schools. People live where they live and schools should respond to the population based upon proximity. You are suggesting a form of bussing kids for reasons of balance, this has been shown to be dissastorous and can cause adverse effects to the schools and to the communities.
I grew up in this county and I have good friends, with children, who live in Laurel Hill, Mason Neck, Crosspointe, Lorton and Hayfield. They all want a middle school in South County now. Hayfield parents, teachers & students love the fact that Hayfield is now under-capacity, and the kids in South County want to stay at SCSS.
The real problem is "funding" for the middle school now. The SC middle school is projected to be built/funded around 2015 or so. This is why many SC residents are suggesting that the funding for LHES be used to convert the school to a middle school for 6 to 8 grades now.
The middle school will cost around $50 million and I think the LHES is funded for $25 million; I'm guessing here. Creative financing is still needed, but it's a solution that's workable in my opinion.
BRAC will be hitting the Hayfield and South County areas hard in 2011. You don't want to Bus any children past Fort Belvoir and you shouldn't want any child to endure this horrible commute. Work for a solution to keep all SC kids in South County. Busing isn't the solution.
Lets have a mass ad campaign for the benefits of Home Schooling.
A move of the boundary line one mile either way for many schools would make a big difference in diversity. South County could, or will be less or more diverse based on a slight shift of the boundary line and no more or less bussing in the overall scheme of things would be necessary. Lorton is diverse, draw the line at I-95 South County is less diverse. Is that a reason to set the boundaries? should that be a factor? that is what the community and the school board must answer. I am sure the folks at Oakton, South Lakes, and Herndon are watching to see what the school board decides is important.
The school board will vote for what is best for them. It has nothing to do what is best for the students, school or community, it will be what is best for the school board. It is all politics.
Since some talk of converting the new LHES to a 6-8 middle school came up I went and looked at the CIP numbers for 6-8 grade populations in the effected schools with this idea. If you take the 2006 current numbers for 7-8 graders now at South county and add the number of 6th graders at Halley, Silverbrook, Newington Forest and Lorton Station (I did not count Gunston which is split only the 6th graders from Mason Neck was left out which I assume is very small maybe 20?) You get a total of 1,493 student for 2006 and 1,635 in the year 2011. That would be a pretty large middle school. Looking further a capcity numbers left at the elementary schools after taking out 6th grade for 2006/2011
Halley 74under/22under
SilverBk 78over/81over
NF 31under/1over
LortonSt. 249over/387over
South County High 528 under/197 under
As you not some shifting at Halley and Silverbrook could be done but Lorton Station is grossly overcrowded and even with removing the 6th grade leaves this school overcrowded. South County would have that excess space opened up by removing the middle schoolesrs and would have a good buffer which shrinks to less then 200 by the year 2011.
OK carryon with further discussion in light of these numbers.
1:41 -- you bring up a VERY intriguing point. The political livelihood of several school board members could likely be at stake with this particular boundary study, given that most current board members' terms expire at the end of 2007. Whatever position you take in this debate, I'm sure some of us will remember -- with our VOTES in November -- how well our SB district reps represented us through all of this.
TheFCPS middle schools that are 6-8 are not the higher performing middle schools of the county. It is not wise to mix 6th graders with 8th graders. Most 6th graders nowadays aren't overly sheltered or socially immature, but it is detrimental to their wellbeing to be exposed to teenage issues that would be encountered with 8th graders.
Question: Aren't all SB members running for re-election in 2007?
2:34 -- sorry to confuse, you are CORRECT about ALL SB members being up for re-election in 2007. (I misread the term lengths on a couple members.)
Does FCPS have any middle schools that are 6-8. If so I did not know that.
1:51 I really appreciate the research and taking the time to crunch the numbers. However, the one certainty about ALL forecasts is that they are always wrong. We do our best to estimate and guess what the future will be, but we honestly don't know. Student projections could be wrong, as they were with the SCSS. But, I know it's the only data that we have. Hayfield had to endure many years of over-capacity; I just figure now it's South County's turn to make it work.
The reason the 6-8 ms in FCPS have such poor scores is not because of 6-8 mix. It is because the neighborhoods that feed into these schools have very high FRLunch/ESOL indicators.
If SCSS gets a 6-8 middle school AND it is limited to Halley, Silverbrook andNF,there will be no "issues" that will lower the scores.
151,
I think you miss the point on the 6-8 LH Middle School. I think that those supporting it will keep it smaller by being selective of who goes there. HF has capacity and can take part of/most of Lorton Station ES. That is why implementing a two-phase plan works. Get rid of as much of Lorton Station to Hayfield as we can and THEN make LHES a 6-8. You don't need to make it big enough for everyone going to SCSS now - it would only be for Halley, NF, and Silverbrook. That is another reason for Mason Neck to go to Hayfield -- don't want any confusion with Gunston ES.
Glasgow is 6-8 and I have no idea what they will do since the replacement building is going to be much larger than projected enrollment even after the Mckibben study. F & P knows the location of Laurel Hill and should do the current boundary study based on the future LH attendance area. Instead of the Hayfield boundary having a dragon tail, FCPS could widen it and take in part of Saratoga as well as some of the eastern Silverbrook barbell. I'd like to see a domino involving more schools eastwards - South Oaks Run and Barrington at LB. No whre else in this county does FCPS do other side of the tracks/highway boundaries. They need to get those GT kids out of LB - it is not true there is not room in that school.
I think is was terrible that Hayfield had to endure many years of over capacity, but saying it is South County's turn is wrong. Remember a lot of the students at SC were at over capacity HF for a long time. Not only did they have to endure the over capacity, they had to endure a long commute.
A 6-8 grade configuration does not work with any ES splits. Review the Annandale pyramid for proof on how it works. There are not splits. Thus Gunston and LS would have to return in whole to Hayfield, for a 6-8 configuration to work.
This idea was reviewed a year ago, it was found that our area is too big for such a configuration, the splits are problematic and we need another ES to ease capacity at 2 current area ESs. The issue is dead.
Good, put it in a grave next Option #1.
So that leaves us with the staff reccomendation. If the board delays the decision on LBSS for two years, will it allow this 6-8 thing to come back? I think that LS and Gunston in whole to Hayfield might work. Once LS is reduced to capacity it just might fit into Hayfield won't it? Most of Gunston is at HF already.
Option 2B!
Option 2b is not good. The SB should avoid using this option because it will hurt many communities. It creates too many islands.
No. 2A and 2B just makes Silverbrook unhappy.
Both are wrong options. Hayfield must take students back. The school has the space and staff. If the school does not take additional students it will have to destaff AGAIN.
The issue is not to delay. SCSS is close to 600 over and can't continue, despite even with that split schedule!
2A and 2B take the most kids out of SCSS,bringing down the enrollment to slightly OC. Hayfield gets kids under that option as does Lake Braddock. The SB should pick 2A since Silverbrook wouldn't be split.
LBSS does not have the space despite what they say at Hayfield. The #S are not adding up there. Bottom line someone is going back to Hayfield. Bottom line not enough students are leaving SCSS, bottom line a MS will be needed or an infusion of $$$ into SCSS, Bottom line where is Storck on this and others??? What are they doing for the constituents who live here, don't we deserve more than we got from them??
Hayfield says LBSS will have space because the experts that project for FCPS says they will as does Mckibbon. Why is that so hard to believe? Youall keep bringing up LBSS numbers for next year which means SQUAT. This is about planning for the future. LBSS is almost full now but that school is easily reconfigured, move the GT to the High School side. The school is losing students, so what they if they start out at capacity next year with students from South County, even with them in five years they will be back down to around 90 percent. Why is this being made so difficult? I think I know why.
In 2011, when rising Freshmen are seniors, there is almost no difference between the space available at LB and HF. This has been said by the staff, verified by an outside consultant, and said by many. LB and Silverbrook are simply in denial.
If you do not believe the space will be available at LB, what makes you think it will be avaialable at HF? The same methods were used to project availability. The projections at LB are no less real than those for HF, SC, or any other school.
925 actual empty seats now at Hayfield.
who cares how many seats at Hayfield right now. BS, Red herring, blow smoke. There will be less seats next year, and even fewer if they take the recommendation by staff.
81% UTILIZATION at LBSS in 2011. ACTUAL PROJECTION VERIFIED BY OUTSIDE EXPERT!
He also verified Mount Vernon.
LB is in the study. MV is not.
Option 2A is less detrimental than Option 2B. The SB should support Option 2A.
The SB and F&P has included Lake Braddock in the last 3 boundary studies. I guess they thought Lake Braddock had space. Now, Silverbrook tells us that Lake Braddock does not have space. Funny that.
I don't think LB should have been included in the first 2 studies because they were undergoing renovation. Having said that, renovation is completed as of this spring, space is available, we know the # of current 6th graders at the LB feeders and at the GT Centers. It is time to use the empty seats at this freshly renovated school. The schoolboard must vote for Option 2A
^^^What 6:06 said (except change it to 2B)!
Way to go Colts !!
2A or 1!!!
option one is bad for kids, good only for parents who think SCSS is the Harvard of public schools.
It will never be the “Harvard” of public schools, once the school board is done with it.
Not even TJ is the Harvard of public schools.
SCSS deserve to have a properly balance school. The staff reccomendation for the east is fine. The board should amend the staff reccomendation to send some of SB/NF to LBSS to complete the process.
The school board can not send part of Silverbrook and part of Newington Forest to Lake Braddock, it will create too many splits. One or the other.
SC will never be the Harvard of public schools no matter what the SB does.
2A doesn't split NF. All of NF would stay together whether they are redistricted or not.
No one really knows what the Elementary School boundaries will be in two years, so the "don't split my elementary school" is kind of silly. If you want to avoid splits we need to delay action on this study until the LHES boundary is set. Can we wait that long?
Splits are all over the county, I think people make more of them then they deserve. I don't think a split ES is that big a deal. You don't want to split a subdivision but a split ES is no big deal. A school like Silverbrook and Newington Forest are 800 to 0ver a thousand kids. You split those schools kids may miss a friend going to 7th grade but more then likely will have plenty of other kids split with them to 7th grade. Small splits could be a problem, I would agree that should be avoided, otherwise not a big deal except to the parents.
I don't think the Hayfield only solution will adequately solve SC's OC issues even for just 2 years. Send Newington Forest to Lake Braddock starting in 07-08 with the 7th and 9th grade classes.
429,
If the SB splits Silverbrook, they will split a subdivision. The Silverbrook split is a big deal. If the SB splits up communities in the Sliverbrook area, that is a big deal, too many islands and not many students sent to Lake Braddock. Option 2b is bad, no matter how the SB splits it.
The only subdivision split is Crosspoint and that is already split by Siverbrook Rd from the areas of Crosspoint south of Silverbrook Rd. I am pretty sure there aren't any elementary school kids allowed to cross Silverbrook rd to see there buddies on the otherside. At least I hope not. If they split silverbrook there would be no island it the area of the split is bordered by the Lake Braddock area. I neighborhoods in silverbrook are hugh, they will adjust if half are split from the others not a big deal for the kids.
610,
The school board should not split a subdivision, Crosspointe or any other subdivision, it is bad for the Silverbrook Community. 2B is a bad option.
To prove that Lake Braddock will have room, this is from the handout for the 2/5/07 work session:
4. What are the projected enrollments for LBSS in 2 years?
For school year 2008-09, Lake Braddock Middle School is projected to have 1267 students, with a capacity of 1350. Lake Braddock High School is projected to have 2370 students with a capacity 2725. The combined enrollment is projected to be 3637, with a capacity of 4075, resulting in 438 available student spaces.
6. Based on the previous two questions, will LBSS be able to accommodate the over capacity for SCSS in 2009. If not, what plans would facilities suggest to handle the extra capacity at SCSS (this assumes no middle school funding outside the CIP has been secured)?
Yes, in 2009-10, the projected capacity deficit at SCSS is projected to be 443 student spaces, with 579 available at LBSS. The surplus at LBSS is projected to increase to 753 student spaces by 2011.
So there Silverbrook. You CAN send your students to LBSS.
Here's another good point:
8. Has staff considered any other approaches to bringing children out of SCSS into LBSS that may not push the middle school enrollment to go beyond capacity? (e.g. moving in rising 8th graders only)?
No, the space at LBSS is flexible enough to accommodate the expected increase in enrollment at both the middle and high school levels.
Hey 6:28/6:30 stop making sense, someone might actually figure out a solution without asking the tax payers to pay. Can't have that this is public schools your talking about, the skys the limit.
Silverbrook can survive a split, quit acting like a hurricane is about to wipe out your community.
Crosspointe is already split by schools since both Halley and Silverbrook are located in the subdivision.
Any news on the board meeting that was held tonight?
The fairest option is to use Interstate 95 as the boundary. Everyone to the east goes to Hayfield. It's an clear line that eliminates all the arguing between Lorton Station and Mason Neck about who stays at SCSS and who goes.
Hayfield has such a terrible reputation. It was ranked number 23 out of 24 Fairfax county high schools last fall in Northern Virginia magazine. It's broken because they took too many students out and the only way to fix it is to bring the students back. Unfortunately, Hayfielders are trying to pick and choose who goes to the school and by using weak arguments about the impact of BRAC. Any parent who values their children's education would not move into that school pyramid.
How could being ranked 23rd in Fairfax County make any school terrible. Fairfax County has the best school system in the country, and Hayfield ranks very high among US high schools. Are you saying that parent who values their children's education would not move into a school ranked lower than Hayfield? That would wipe out about 90% of high schools in the country. 9:25 - you need to get a life.
good then we should all move to South County.
You do not know what you are talking about 9:25. Whoever comes back to Hayfield will find a different caring place for learning then the one that was here a few years ago.
And don't talk about picking and chosing, folks at South County are the ones that have done all the picking and choosing on who is worthy to stay at SCSS. So far they have succeeded in taking LBSS off the table.
I've heard there are a lot of fights and problems at South County. It is not turning out to be the school everyone expected.
9:19,
Route 1 is also just as clear a line. All east of Rt. 1 could go to Hayfield and West of 95 go to South County. While your at is Silverbrook Rd. and Hooes Rd. looks like a good boundary line as well.
9:41 and 9:45, I know it's tempting and I need to remember, too, but let's try not to feed board trolls like 9:25, okay?
Let me guess, 9:25 -- we can "fix" Hayfield by bringing back ALL of South County's MS'ers and making that facility a high school only, right? Nice try.
I think we as Hayfielders have made it abundantly clear for nearly a year now -- we don't care WHICH students return to our school, but we surely do care about HOW MANY! BOTH Hayfield and Lake Braddock SS's need to be used to alleviate overcrowding in this study. Perhaps Northern Virginia magazine should interview current Hayfield students -- their voices and reactions seem to be a collective sigh of relief since the South County kids pulled out. I think they would take issue with anyone saying their school has a terrible reputation. Though to be frank, I'm guessing that NV magazine's lists don't pack the editorial punch of Newsweek's (where a handful of Fairfax County high schools, including Hayfield, made the top 150 secondary schools in the NATION).
Finally, you certainly have "cojones" accusing Hayfield of trying to cherry-pick its school demographic -- behavior that some SCSS parents have engaged in for YEARS though they vehemently deny it. Unlike the smoke and mirrors that some west-of-I-95'ers use to deflect the use of LBSS based on its projected numbers in this boundary study, BRAC is quite real. It will certainly affect transportation patterns and likely have some effect on school enrollments in the future. I work at Belvoir, I attend the working group meetings both on post and in the communities, and I know how BRAC can and probably will impact us.
If you don't think BRAC will affect those of us living near and around Belvoir and the schools we attend, you really are as ignorant and ill-informed as the tone of your posting suggests you are.
2-5-07 school board work session
There are additional pdf docs provided by Tisdadt/Chevalier which show potential boundaries for Laurel Hill. There are currently 55 SC students at LB for GTC. Swapping them out for 55 plus base school SC students that continue to LB HS uses a lot of capcity. Bizarrely all the projections show a GTC continuing at Lorton Station when most schools are large and in other parts of the county they are phasing out these large GTC's for elementar and middle school.
You can even make a puzzle and move around the kids.
You know, watching the work session last night I think some on the board are coming to the realization that the choice is clear. They either have to put alot of students at Hayfield to give any real relief to SCSS and risk overcrowding Hayfield in a few years or they have to utilize the space at Hayfield and Lake Braddock to fix the problem.
The answer is simple, USE LAKE BRADDOCK.
... or move a Middle School up on the CIP (where is belongs) and put up with overcrowding in the meantime.
As a Fairfax County taxpayer, I am not interested in paying for a new middle school while there are empty seats at nearby schools. Use the available space first. I will be watching to see how my school board member votes. That will determine how I will vote later this year.
Amen to THAT, 7:31...
Why does that matter?
Mr. Storck and Mr. Center made a complete mess down here at West Springfield and at South County twice. What more do you need?
Why does what matter?
and how did Storck and Center make a mess at West Springfield and South County. Seems to me its only a mess when you don't get your way.
Build the South County middle school.
731
Excess capacity in the wrong place is not useful. Mount Vernon has excess right now and LBSS will have some soon, but both are far away and more importantly in different communities from the SC area. Hayfield wants some students, but even they are a different community for SC. This ia a bigger issue than just capacity. What is best for FCPS overall? The only answer is a Middle School. It is on the CIP for a reason and facts now demand that it be moved up. If that bumps lesser important projects, so be it.
Ok say the funding comes for a Middle school. It still would be at least four years before it could open. Is South County willing to wait and live the the crowding for four years?
yes
yes, but some can go to Hayfield ...
I keep hearing that the community at South County wants to stay together and this is why the middle school needs to be built. Why would anyone have to go to Hayfield if a middle school is built and room for all is created?
7:37 - How did Mr. Center make a mess at West Springfield? He voted against moving South Hunt Valley from Lee to West Springfield. He wanted a boundary study of the area done before making a decision to move them. BTW, SHV is welcome back at Lee. We may have been a little overcrowded when they were there, but they never caused a mess and were always welcome.
I don't get it. How does wanting a boundary study before making a decision mess up West Springfield? I admit I did not pay much attention to that study, but I think it is wise to gather information with a study before you start moving communities in and out of schools. Is or was Hunt Valley at West Springfield? is it at Lee? Isn't Lee now at a comfortable number while West Springfield at capacity?
Yes, Mr. Center wanted a complete study done before any decision was made to move SHV. SHV used to go to Lee and were moved to West Springfield, even though West Springfield was at capacity, and really could not take more students. That was Mr. Storck's doing, not Mr. Center.
Oh, so Hunt Valley is back at Lee. What is wrong with doing a study before bouncing a community back to Lee. I believe Mr. Storck puts more emphasis on a close community school with the neighborhoods going to the closest schools regardless of capacity. Maybe he felt Hunt Valley was more attached to the West Springfield community and the school could handle a little overcrowding. I believe this is the way he feels about his constituents in and around Lorton Station.
Who said South Hunt Valley is back at Lee? Where is that coming from?
Oh, my bad, I was asking, I misunderstood. Bottom line is I see nothing wrong with doing a study before moving a community. There may be better reasons then just capacity to move or not move a neighborhood in or out of a school. Forgive my ignorance, I am not up on the W. springfield Lee study.
Look at high school boundary maps. Robinson and LB have big attendance areas. Should they build a new school south of both of them to get a shorter commute? They are building an addition at langley. maybe instead of an addition people in northern reston, herndon, and great falls should get a new school. anyone from south county care to pay for those 2 schools? Those students are bussed a lot further than Silverbrook would be to LB.
The problem is, there are good reasons for every community currently attending SCSS to stay there. Every community would have to travel further to school if they were moved. The problem is, the school will not be able to function properly if something is not done about numbers. That is why I think students should be moved from both sides of SCSS to make it fair. Some from the east side to Hayfield, and some from the west side to Lake Braddock.
Aa a taxpayer I think its criminal NOT to build the middle school. What's more importsant, a few extra bucks in your wallet, or the well being of the kids?
Both. I'll keep my money, while the kids get a first class education at Hayfield and Lake Braddock.
Use Hayfield for most of those West of I-95 and build a MS to deal with the rest of the overcrowding.
I mean east.
I guess you live west of I95, would like to kick out all the east of I95 kids and then get the taxpayer to build a nice new middle school for Silverbrook, NF and Halley. No way.
I live in Lorton, with no school age children, and it's very disturbing to see one South County (SC) community push for an option that would "kick out" another community from SC. If busing is the only option, then I wish they would distribute this burden across the entire SC area. Hayfield; we apologize for not wanting to stay beyond 8th grade, but 6 years of busing right past Ft. Belvoir (BRAC) is going to be hell. Hayfield; we promise to fight for funds to build a SC middle school as hard as we can. Lorton is about become the Sacrificial Lamb for all of SC for 6 years of school. Does anybody care that Lorton Valley is 1.2 miles from SCSS? The kids can walk to SCSS; they can also hear the stadium announcer and see the stadium lights from their front yards.
Many communities want to kick out the Silverbook area too. Many Silverbrook kids can walk to SCSS, they don't because of the sidewalk issue. We are also less than a mile away from SCSS. I think it is terrible that two communities, Silverbrook & Lorton Valley are about 1 mile away, and they may go to Hayfield and Lake Braddock. It's just wrong.
It is wrong and that is why ALL communities need to ask their school board member to do nothing so that we can find funds for a MS. We are close so give us two more years. Do it for the kids if not for the communities. Long commutes for any child is not right.
Come to Hayfield for all six years or do not come at all.
1:33 You speak as if the students and parents of Lorton, want to travel 7 miles to Hayfield through BRAC traffic. All of the homeowners/residents/students in Lorton, that I've met at the Lorton Town meetings, would rather stay at an overcrowded SCSS than get bused to Hayfield. Lorton residents think Hayfield is too far and BRAC will make it worse. If the situation were reversed, wouldn't you want the Hayfield children returned to Hayfield for High School? You wouldn't want them in South County for High School.
You really don't think it is good for kids to go to Hayfield or Lake Braddock for two years then go back to South County. That works with a separate MS building but not a secondary school. I think that would be cruel to the kids, you know how the school fosters a school community. To put them in for two years knowing they are leaving would by like starting a leoprosy colony within the school and telling the kids to try to get along. Hayfield has been messed up with the instability of opening a new school, screwing up staffing, classroom offerings and programs. This school needs a stable population, not a middle school the size of the high school with no additional high school attendance. We are trying to make a better school, that would destroy it.
I think the bloggers should remember who messed up Hayfield, South County & now maybe Lake Braddock, the school board. It's not the communities, I know things have been said, but the school board is to blame. I hope everybody will remember this and vote them out of office.
I disagree. I think it was the communities that messed everything up. The school board was trying to make as many communities as possible happy. Community after community demanded that they go to South County. Everyone knew it could end up being a big mess, and it did. No one really cared about the numbers, just as long as their community got in. It is easy to blame the school board now, but just go back and remember how every community had meeting after meeting with their SB member to get into South County. Communities pushed very hard until they got their way. Now the school board needs to stop listening to communities and do the right thing. Seven miles to school is not that bad. The school board needs to implement 2A or 2B.
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I think that once a student starts in a Secondary School they should graduate from there if at all possible. If the situation were reversed, I would still want my son/daughter to stay at a Secondary School for all six years. Middle Schools inside of Secondary Schools should NEVER be split feeders. It is better to travel 7 miles for six years then to be a temporary Hawk/future Stallion for two years. I would feel the same way if the situation were reversed. If I had a student in the GT Center at LBSS I think they should stay at LBSS for High School.
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The school board had to make the final decision and failed to make the tough choice. It must do it now. This all makes me wonder if this type of decision should even be made by an elected school board.
As far as distance from schools, it is unfortunate that not all can get as close to the school as possible however there are other school boundaries where students are sent to a school further away then another school. This would not be a precedent, not that it makes it any easier, it is simply a matter of numbers.
The school board is politically incapable of making a tough choice. It is a much bigger problem than South County and has been going on for years.
That's right 4:43, not all kids in the county go to their nearest school. The simple facts are - SCSS is overcrowded and students need to be moved to another school. Both Hayfield and Lake Braddock need to be used.
Agreed 4:56.
I wonder when did the elected board come about. Years ago was the school system with out an elected board? I wonder the reason for change. Anyone remember and care to comment?
Late 80's i believe. Previously were appointed but VA legislation changed that.
Elected SB was in 1992 or 1994.
4:56 Both schools do not need to be used. A school should not be opened to additional students when the seats are not there at the time. This has never been done in this county. The seats at Hayfield are there now, movement needs to occur at Hayfield for SC relief.
Since there is room at LB, it can be used also.
Everyone can go round and round about this. Hayfield has empty space AND LB has empty space. Face the facts from the studies and stop thinking that you can send everyone else to Hayfield and your too good to not go to LB. LB can take your kids just like Hayfield can take kids.
The seats are already at Braddock. The 6th grade population of the LB feeders and GTCs is less than the current 8th grade population. The current 8th grade population is less than this year's 12th grade population.
9:56 -- more smoke and mirrors. Both LBSS and HSS most certainly DO need to be utilized in this study. LB DOES has some seats now and will have even more in the future. Hayfield should not -- and cannot -- be expected to shoulder the burden of accepting ALL of South County's overflow, especially since the school board made such horrid choices in the LAST study. Why should Hayfield always have to take one for the team? Let West-of-I-95 share in the sacrifice this time, TOO.
What sacrifice is Hayfield making? Their kids are not moving. Get off your high horse and stop acting like Hayfield has been knighted for taking back some students that never should have left in the first palce.
What sacrifice is it for Fairfax Station (North Silverbrook) to attend LB? N
North Silverbrook would get to attend a top-echelon FCPS school with a proven track record of exemplary academics and athletics.
LB would benefit by getting a highly educated/ high socioeconomic parent body that is extremely involved in their kids' education.
Not only does LBSS have room now, they may have more room then we thought. In the last school board work session Mr. Tisdat (sp?) said that with in a few months they will be relooking at how capacity is calculated at the schools. He said in this meeting that he would be surprised if there was any change in capacity based on any new formula and he went on to say that LBSS may even have more room then current calculations indicate.
11:19 your right in that they took more out of Hayfield then they should have, but they also allowed a Junior Class at South County when the should not have. Projections were off and that did not help. The fact is there are more kids in the SCSS and Hayfield areas can handle and LBSS was expanded and renovated in order to educate more students. The schools closest to LBSS in need of relief from overcrowding is SCSS.
And if I can add to my statement above, areas in the current Hayfield district are still building out and plans for a hugh redevelopment on and around Springfield Mall will impact neighboring schools of Lee and Edison. I think it would be wise to plan ahead and leave some room at Hayfield to take more in the future from new developement and to help with relief to High Schools closer to Hayfield then SCSS is. When Springfield Mall is redeveloped those kids will be within walking distance of Lee. To make room at Lee I would think a community like Saratoga would be a logical choice to take out of Lee and bring over to Hayfield. Frankly by 2011 I think Hayfield will be at capacity even if the current staff recommendation is adopted.
LBSS population is going down while even more room will be added this spring at the end of the renovation. It would be foolish not to plan to use it.
Hey 9:56
Do you always live in the now or do you sometimes plan ahead. I spend money sometimes now when I do not physically have it in my pocket its called credit and I know I will have the money to pay my bills. LBSS will have the space to take SCSS students. Your plan is to push as much to Hayfield as you can so that when the space at LBSS does come about you can say the crowding is no longer a problem no need to move us. Right is that the plan?
Shouldn't South county be fighting to keep as many kids in order to put the pressure on for a new middle school?
LBSS has space NOW and in the FUTURE. LBSS will have over 300 empty spaces next year that will grow to over 750 in four years. That is more than enough to start taking 50-75 rising 7th graders next year. They do not need credit -- the money is there pocket.
Even more room can be made it they can scale back the bloated GT Center where it belongs.
and using the "credit" terminology let us note forget that the Board has already "spent" a portion of Hayfield's excess capacity in recent boundary changes, are still paying the bill down, with an expected pay off in 2011-2012.
I don't get the east west of 95 junk. Look at boundaries throughout this county starting at the top where 95 enters Virginia. Here are some high schools north to south and kids go from both sides of 95: Langley, Mclean, Marshall,Falls Church, Annandale,Lee. Start at the top where 95 enters Virgina and cooper and churchill road feed from either side of 95. Enough on the geography lesson.
The GTC at LB is BS and for less than the costs of new trailers for SC both Hayfield and SC cold set up at GTC for this coming school year. FCPS could shift money around in the operating budget from trailers to teachers. On that issue - we should be paying them more . Our teachers with masters are getting the shaft and they are the ones who we should really be doing right by. All this boundary junk and trailers take away from their compensation. Furthermore, Chevaliers numbers show they could sway 55 plus middle school kids from that LB GTC with SC and then get 110 plus more base school kids at LB for 9-12.
Option 2A should be the board's vote.
Option 2A should be the board's vote.
2A just looks weird on a map. Sending Newington Forest across the West Springfield district to Burke just doe not seem right. Besides sending NW would skew the demographic numbers down for SCSS. I don't think that would be good for SCSS these kids need to live in the real world and attend school with a diverse population in which they live. 2b makes more sense to me.
Nothing like using "weird" as a means of determining where kids will attend school. No more split feeders. 2B makes no sense at all, "real world" issues not withstanding. 2a or even 1 are better.
2B and 2A maintain the split at Lorotn Station, creates a split at Halley, and assuredly gaurentees a split Laurel Hill ES. No one knows what the boundaries will be for NF or SB in two years so this "no new splits" argument is just silly. About the only way to avoid new splits is to have the new ES boundaries ahead of time.
Option #1 creates splits at LB and HF Middle Schools. This option is dead anyway.
Can we stick to the staff reccomendation and the options the board discussed at the work session? Bringing up #1 and the old options is a waste of time.
It is weird to send Newington Forest in a big fat highlighter line drawing a circle around WS to LB just because some people at SB WON"T go to a geographically logical school. It makes no sense when you look at potential LH on the FCPS website.
If SB does not like it they can move, go private, or homeschool. I don't care since we all have to pay for their nonsense.
Any last minute "amendments" come up at the SB meeting a couple of days ago?
Facilities was asked to come up with alternative options to the recommendation of the boundary only on the eastern side. They came up with 5 different scenarios without regard to the numbers and demographics for information purposes. Those maps are on board docs at the FCPS site. No amendments were offered as an amendment would come from a board member.
You can expect that the board members are preparing amendments. They should be anyway as that is their job. They should be striving for as good of a solution for the county and their constituents as possible. I certainly hope that someone has amendments available to use Lake Braddock!
I have one. USE LAKE BRADDOCK TOO!
At least a little now.
GT students at Lorton Station ES whose base school is or will be HF should go to Mark Twain for GT Middle School. This would reduce some of the strain on LBSS GT Center.
Interesting this blog is so one sided. It is not truly a forum for discussion.
Hey boarddocs already lists options for the Laurel Hills ES. Why isn't Sangster in this study? They could move a handful of kids to Sangster/LBSS from Halley or SB and help the OC problem at SCSS more long term.
Anyone can blog here. However, If you spin or mistate facts you will be corrected. When the facts are open and public the "Silverbrook" side starts to crumble and things appear one sided. Sorry for that.
Please post your comment, as Hillary said "lets chat" Go ahead make your argument. I think you feel this is one sided because the truth and facts fly in the face of your argument which I assume is Lake Braddock has no room.
I would like all here that are blogging in support of a correctly sized attendance for Hayfield not to post anything till noon to allow others in the South County and Lake Braddock or other parts of the County too voice there opinions and thoughts. I am all for discussion.
I will be reading and commenting after noon.
(crickets chirping)
I guess there is no arguments. Let the school board know, all concede that LBSS should be used.
I have 1 minute until the coach becomes a pumpkin. Lake Braddock should be used and South County should be down to capacity with no grandfathering. My child was in multiple schools and was moved as a pack with others. They were little pakcs not entire grade levels or 50 % of them from big elementary schools. The gt center people should be at their base schools for all levels.
"Crickets chirping" sounds like the halls of Hayfield during class changover. Hopefully, that will change next year. Use HF first and then adjust fire after LB stabilizes.
What is LB stabilizing from? Sure they have trailers because of the renovations but the attendance has been stable and slowly declining. The decline will accelerate in a few years to an all out bleeding. Lets keep the Lake Braddock patient stable with an infusion of a small amount of SCSS students to keep that population from falling to fast. Hayfield will gets its booster shot then should be stable as long as the school board does not infect us with another South County break out and involve Hayfield again in two years.
Hayfield understands the impact of losing and gaining lots of kids quickly. It can be done, but it is much better to phase kids in starting in 7th grade, then to take them all at once (7-8-9) and try to transistion former Stallions into Hawks/Bruins.
It is in Lake Braddock's best interest to start getting the additional students in small amounts now as rising 7th graders, then to wait two years and go through what Hayfield is doing this year.
Of course, you can use the argument in two years as well ...
Be warned! You will start losing AP and Honors courses before you know it and your clubs and sports programs will suffer.
The NW portion of Silverbrook to Lake Braddock will not be affected by Laurel Hill since there are enough kids to fill that from eastern Silverbrook and other schools. Therefore, there is absolutely no reason to not move at least 55 middle school and 100 high school to LB. The net reductio at SC would be 100 since the the gt kids could be back at SC or at Hayfield as the case may be. Since those 150 plus would come from developments that would be 3 busses most likely replacing the current GTc busses. Not a strain on any roads. This is more stable than dumping into Hayfield prematurely when LH is coming into existence.
If you look at the proposed LHES boundaries it might make more sense to send all of the new Silverbrook ES boundary area to Lake Braddock and all of the new Lorton Station ES to Hayfield.
Then SC could have a nice and neat boundary with Halley, Laurel Hill, Newington Forest, and the Mason Neck portion of Gunston.
Wow, looking at the differing LHES boundaries I see another head coming for the school board.
Yes indeed, 4:13 -- but if CURRENT school board members screw up THIS SCSS boundary study, there may well be a wholly different set of school board members deciding boundaries for Laurel Hill when the time comes...
Silverbrook and South County are synonymous. SCSS will fall apart without us.
Yes we know, we know , your the be all to end all.
And who are you 6:20?
Hayfield, Lee, Lorton Station who? Why so much anamosity towards Silverbrook? Because you can and this blog affords it. You would open LBSS with only 30 MS seats for what, to just do so because you want a "pay back" for Silverbrook. What on earth did those people do to you?
I think all the animosity towards Silverbrook is a stealth campaign of NF parents pretending to be east of I95 people. Get everyone to hate Silverbrook, get them to only promote 2B instead of the much more logical 2A.
Claiming LBSS has only 30 MS seats is pure spin. LBSS will have over 300 seats empty next year and all we suggest is that someone use 50-75 of them.
This 300 will grow to over 750 (Possibly more once they reevaluate the capacity) if nothing is done and all we suggest is using 400-450 of them.
I am not against Silverbrook. I think that community is well organized, smart, and does very well supporting their case. It is unfortunate, but they are the best candidate for LBSS. The facts are against them, not their neighbors.
The distaste for Silverbrook goes way back to their behavior during previous boundary studies. All that is forgiven though. This time it is just the logical choice to start sending some Silverbrook rising 7th to LBSS.
Thanks but somehow I don't think so. Call it experience. I believe this anamosity is coming from the creators of this blog and others who just want some sort of discomfort factor for the families of Silverbrook. They want Silverbrook to leave SC as it would be seen or preceived to be a personal loss for the Silverbrook parents not to mention a community Silverbrook loss.
This blog has made the situation a win/lose issue and made the entire situation to be vindictive.
No room at LBSS now. Silverbrook was no more or less behaved than others.
We gave to Hayfield with time and volunteers, we traveled the distance for years. It was time for a school near our community. LBSS does not have the room now for 400 students. The community does not want to be split unlike LS and Gunston. Leave them/us alone. Enjoy Hayfield or where-ever. Just leave us out of your discussions, we wish to remain at SC.
Silverbrook is the most logical to stay at SCSS - it is the core of the SCSS community. Many on this blog spout pure nonsense when it comes to space at LB and how HF will become overcrowded. SB needs to and will remain together at SCSS. Move on to poisioning another school or neighborhood. It seems to be the chosen sport on this blog.
Thank you 7:39, I could not have said it better.
Look, someone comes on here from Silverbrook saying that South County would "fall apart" without them as if they are the only ones that get involved with their school. To me that is a slight to others that put just as much time into making a school a success. Hayfield has not fallen apart without you, and South County wouldn't either. I could care less where your kids go to school and I could care less if you feel anyone is slighting Silverbrook. Your the ones with the attitude as if this is all about you. It isn't, decisions about the boundaires effects far more people then just the Silverbrook community. Your organized, vocal, and good at spinning the discussion and the numbers in your favor, good for you, but this time around other communities have organized and researched the same numbers and what is best for Silverbrook is not necessarily what is best for the rest of the neighborhoods involved.
There is room at LBSS now, but that is irelevent. No one is suggesting that students go there on Monday for god's sake. We are talking about phasing in over the next few years. The decisions need to be based on how much room is available in the future.
HF is at risk of becoming overcrowded if too many kids are sent there. We have been there before (remember, you were part of it) and do not want to go back again. The staff recomendation is fine, but any additional relief needs to come from LBSS.
LBSS and HF are predicted to have 750-800 empty seats in 2011. How accurate are these predictions? I don't know. I suspect that neither school will have that much space empty, but we have to use something to make decisions and based on this each school can take 400-500 students and still have room for error.
7:37
Lorton Station wants to be split? Says who?
You want to be left alone, but it won't happen. The school board will move someone next year and again the year after. I am all for leaving you alone this year, but next time I know you will be looking to push more out from the East to Hayfield and that my friend is where I have a problem. How bout I leave you alone this year if you leave us at Hayfield alone next year. Deal?
7:54
There you go making sense again, if that comment is directed to our friends in Silverbrook save yourself time, facts from not one but two experts mean nothing to them. Let them stay, send NF we don't care just don't think about sending more to Hayfield then Staff recommendation.
I think the current staff recommendation puts too many kids at Hayfield. Hayfield needs to be left around 90% capacity. Lake Braddock should be used NOW. I don't care who they send, just get this problem sorted out now. Lake Braddock is a much better school than South County. I don't know why communities are not asking to go there.
If they never use LBSS I think I may move just to get in a highly rated renovated school with plenty of room. Although if nothing is done they may lose class offerings and programs due to the declining population. Someone please go to LBSS to save it from the instability and upheaval experienced at Hayfield these past two years. We can't afford to let that happen to one of the best schools in the county. Silverbrook parents need to keep LBSS from becoming another Hayfield.
It's amazing. Some of these communities have the greatest opportunity they will ever get, and they are turning it down. They are so focused on winning, they have lost sight of the fact that they could go to Lake Braddock! SCSS is not turning out to be a great school and I think in the future many will look back with regret.
7:24, 7:39 & 7:48 -- As I've said before (ad nauseum), I administer this forum but I didn't start the fire. The vindictiveness dates back to before the opening of SCSS and the first travesty of a boundary study, and it started with a handful (but NOT all) parents from Silverbrook and nearby neighborhoods. Funny how so many of those folks brag about commuting the distance to and supporting Hayfield for years and then turned around and talked Hayfield right into the ground when South County's boundaries were first being drawn. "It was a HORRIBLE school, fights there all the time, and drugs are rampant!!" And I won't even get into the nasty comments aimed at specific neighborhoods within the former Hayfield boundaries. I'm quite frankly surprised that those who currently attend SCSS but DON'T want to leave for LBSS haven't found ways to further denigrate Lake Braddock, since the numbers argument isn't in their favor. I know I'll be accused of dredging up all of this history just to stir the pot, and it galls many of you that comments on this blog document some of the dirty little secrets (name-calling, back-room meetings/deals with FCPS staffers, etc.). But the point is that Hayfield -- nor this blog -- did NOT start this so-called battle of the communities.
Also, please don't confuse our long memories with a vindictive attitude toward Silverbrook in THIS boundary study. Hayfield parents and supporters have ALWAYS worked with the county and the school board on this process. We've always said that we'll gladly welcome ANY adjustments in student population no matter where they're coming from, as long as a reasonable buffer for student capacity is maintained. Can the same be said for parents at Silverbrook?? All I catch a whiff of from your side of the interstate is whining, complaining and lots of demands to the school board that students from OTHER neighborhoods be moved from SCSS (but not YOURS).
Finally, space at LBSS next year AND increasing capacity in the out-years -- is that really "nonsense" as you say, or labeled as such due to the usual SB spin?? In point of fact, it's the reality of the situation. Deal with it. 7:54 has put the numbers in black and white above and so have many other sensible posters above this comment. FCPS has fostered the creation of split feeders for decades and the school board perpetuates this problem with each new boundary study. A COUNTY-WIDE boundary study is long overdue. The school board's often too politically motivated choices are why intra-community battles are becoming the norm every time school boundaries are adjusted. However, as in recent boundary studies, other communities have survived being split in two by school attendance lines, and SO WILL SILVERBROOK. Lake Braddock MUST be considered and used in this study to more evenly distribute the capacity buffer between that school and Hayfield.
Mason Neck and Silverbrook started going at it years before that when the Liz B group was trying to send them to Mt. Vernon ro relieve overcrowding at Hayfield.
This is really about Silverbrook trying to get rid of the Lorton Station/Hagel circle area. I think they would put up with SCSS being over capacity, as long as they got rid of those areas. The school board will make sure it happens for them. Terrible.
9:02, I don't think anybody wanted to go there, but since you just did -- I'm afraid you are correct. And yes, it IS terrible.
That will be one of Liz's planks in her platform when she runs for School Board.
Liz will never have a chance. She has alienated too many voters outside of her little circle.
Actually, I heard it was Hayfield (some) wanting to keep out the route 1 from their school, Hagel Circle and other neighborhoods. Hagel Circle will stay at SCSS, and will do them good. The school board will make sure Hayfield and SCSS is made up of all types of students.
Rt. 1 south of Telegraph goes all the way to Woodbridge, Hayfield will get some from that area, be it Hagel Circle, Williamsburg Sq., Lorton Station, Mason Neck, what ever, send whoever, just don't send more then the staff recommendation.
I do believe though that demographics are important to the school board because they feel putting more or less at one school is not good for the kids.
In every scenario and every option presented or considered (except doing nothing) the FRL numbers and percentages will go up at Hayfield and SCSS will go down. The board can attempt to minimize the impact, but it is impossible to balance population and demographics using this region. The demographics of the "border region" between the two schools simply has a significantly higher FRL rate than both schools and so that will happen when moving kids from that area.
The staff reccomendation is about as good as it gets.
That's why Silverbrook should be moved to LB. It would make the SE and FRL %ages of H and SC a little more balanced. If you're going to take out "poor" kids, then take out some rich kids to preserve the ratios.
It great to know that I'm rich since my kids are in the Silverbrook district. Because of all the finger pointing on who should be moved, I still support Option 1, no matter what the detractors say. Split the pain among all involved. I know my youngest would tolerate 2 years at LB as long as he returns to SCSS with the rest of SB. Attending high school at SCSS is best for my child. If you love LB, please pupil place them and spare the rest of us.
You kid may be able to "tolerate" option #1 for two years, but the students at LB and HF don't want to tolerate that mess for all six years.
Option #1 does not "split pain amoung all" it creates pain amoung all with an emphasis on LB and HF.
It is a dead option anyway.
btw, There were only two FRL students in all of Silverbrook ES at last count. That does not make you rich, but the demographics of the area do make a difference when the FCPS is striving for economic diverstiy.
VASM-
You are still in denial about your role. You should have stayed behind the curtain as you don't help us now.
Really? I'm working on a matrix that shows the good and bad of options currently on the table for the major neighborhoods on both sides of the interstate, that I can link to from the front page of this post. Not just Hayfield's perspective, but all affected neighborhoods. Have you answered my query for help on this from last week, and offered to help me with any SC-related perspective (assuming that's where you're from)? That's right -- you haven't. Nobody from SC has.
You can continue to be a comment troll, or you can help me by providing information -- your choice.
Man looks in the abyss, there's nothing staring back at him. At that moment, man finds his character. And that is what keeps him out of the abyss.
"Cancel the study" letters to the editor are in the Connection today.
Can you post the link?
Cancel the study with almost 600 students over capacity??? Yes, we are thinking of the students aren't we?
AND TO VA STATE OF MIND, CHECK THOSE VOLUNTEER POSITIONS AT HAYFIELD WHEN SILVERBROOK AND OTHERS FROM THE WEST WERE AT THAT SCHOOL. WE GAVE TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF TIME ONLY TO READ THAT YOU DETEST THOSE WHO WERE PART OF YOUR HAYFIELD COMMUNITY. YOU ARE NEITHER A VIRGINIAN NOR HAVE A STATE OF RATIONAL MIND. THIS BLOG DOES NOT REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY ONLY A FEW SMALL MINDS. SUCH A SHAME.
LET'S SEE WHY DON'T WE ASK THE SCHOOL BOARD TO REDISTRICT YOU TO A SCHOOL 7-8 MILES FROM YOUR HOME, OR BETTER YET MAKE THAT 12 FOR THAT IS WHAT WE HAD TO TRAVEL. HOW HAPPY WOULD YOU BE AS YOU PASSED SCHOOLS THAT WERE CLOSER?
AS FOR MASON NECK AND OTHERS SILVERBROOK HAS SAID NOTHING AND HAS BEEN UPFRONT ABOUT WANTING TO STAY AT SCSS. OTHER COMMUNITY NAMES WERE NOT USED TO SHOW A PREFERRED BOUNDARY SCENARIO. SILVERBROOK HASN'T USED ANY COMMUNITY, BUT YOU WANT THEM TOO DON'T YOU?. SILVERBROOK HAS ASKED NOT TO BE SPLIT AND SHOWED DUE CONCERN OVER THE LBSS #S.
YOU HAVE MAY HAVE THE WRITTEN POWER OF THIS BLOG, BUT THIS BLOG IS NOT THE REALITY.
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